Most of the good talking points have been covered already, but as a 3DS title competing with THREE other Mario & Luigi games already (one of which is a Select), this game was always going to be dead on arrival. Last game on 3DS I bought is Samus Returns and it will ever beIt's safe to say that nobody gives a damn about 3DS anymore, we just want news about the Switch. Another positive is that it makes some of the absolute BEST use of the dual screen mechanic. Switch only has 2x better graphics in portable mode and even then, graphics don't matter. A classic style Alpha Dream Mario RPG retailing for $30 on the switch would sell like gangbusters. If they had released it in HR on the Switch, I would've bought it in a heartbeat though. I have a feeling physical copies (especially sealed) might be pretty valuable in 5-10 years. I bought it, but even as someone who’s pretty obsessed with the Mario & Luigi series and has 100%ed all of them (including the extra challenges that started in Dream Team), I could not get into this remake. Would have bought it if it would have been on Switch. Hold on there, you need to login to post a comment... Random: Looks Like You Have No Control Over Mario Party Dice Rolls After All, Best Of 2020: Super Mario Galaxy 2 - 10 Years Of Nintendo's Straightest, Greatest Sequel, Capcom Switch And 3DS Sale Discounts Lots Of Top Games, Up To 75% Off. We moved on. "It'll only alter 97% of your DNA." They might not be able to get away with low-resolution high detail sprite work any longer. The main difference is the style of game, one's an RPG and one's a platformer. I keep thinking why? A description of tropes appearing in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story. Like in Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga + Bowser's Minions, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey has updated graphics, soundtrack, and controls, looking visually similar to Mario & Luigi: Dream Team and Mario & Luigi: Paper Jam. Unlike the N64 which sold a somewhat decent number of consoles but perhaps not enough to counter bad sales elsewhere.). Switch will go kaboom from a fall. 3DS has had a great life. I also can see why people wouldn't be interested in a game available in DS and with almost no changes in 3DS. 1. the game is already available on 3DS as a DS game for 1/4 of the price. If the game have released in the Switch instead of the 3DS/2DS family consoles, it would have had decent sales. See? I'm still up for buying more 3DS games (and will definitely get both of Atlus's 2019 releases this year), but the ports Nintendo is choosing to release don't appeal. I will buy any new game they release: Luigi's Mansion, Kirby's extra Epic Yarn and this seem like perfect choices for the veteran console. So, what gives? The old DS game is 60 fps and looks better, what's the point of this port then? But those aren't deal breakers by any means. I am excited for the Bowser's Inside Story remake because I loved that game but I am disappointed and sad if there won't be a Partners in Time remake because I also loved that game. 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However, I think that those things make it the perfect recipe for some particularly powerful nostalgia that skews people's current perceptions, because the remake is the objectively better looking of the two versions and there is no other reason to say that the original "looks better". (Wii U was more powerful; see Bayonetta 1 on Wii U vs Switch vs PS3) Just look at games released on both Switch and Wii U. It is easier to take my 3DS with me wherever I go than it is to take my Switch. The results would have been the exact same, possibly even worse since PiT wasn't well received compared to other M&L games to begin with. Resident Evil! Yeah, long time fans like me will still support it but it's had no exciting 'big' releases over the last year that aren't just ports or updates of older games and it's well known even to casuals that the next main Pokemon game will be on Switch. BIS bombed on the 3DS because the 3DS is dying. Bowser's Inside Story marked the start of a downward turn for the Mario & Luigi games for me personally. @oninowon I agree that it would have been cool for Alphadream to include the 3d feature, but they did not do it because that would have required them to restructure the game so that the inside bowser sections and overworld sections could both make use of it. It was announced in a Nintendo Direct on March 8, 2018. 3DS consoles are slowing most of the fanbase already moved to the Switch. Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey(known as Mario & Luigi RPG 3 DX in Japan) is a game for the Nintendo 3DS, released on the 21st of June, 2019. So seems limited supply even. I went for it and loved it but 3DS is kinda dead. In fact, the same applies to Luigi’s mansion and Kirby’s Epic Yarn. I've never played a M&L game yet and hope to make Superstar Saga/Bowser's Minions my first title. It maybe would've had better sales since most people probably don't already own the original copy of this game. PIT sold half as many copies. @Mando44646 The 3DS is easy to use on a plane, on the train, at a friend's house, etc. Take successful remakes from the past: Pokémon Gold and Silver, 2000, Game Boy - Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver, 2008, Nintendo DSSuper Mario World, 1991, Super Nintendo - Super Mario Advance 2, 2002, Game Boy AdvancePokémon Ruby and Sapphire, 2003, Game Boy Advance - Pokémon OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire, 2014, Nintendo 3DSThe Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past, 1992, Super Nintendo - The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past + Four Swords, 2002, Game Boy Advance. It isn't the 3DS, it's the price and the fact that M&L games just don't seem too popular. I cannot complain about the size of the library that I have for it! @Mando44646 @sanderev Try to fit a Switch in a case into your pocket. Just let that old console die already! For you I guess it's all about the system. Why didn't it sell well? Nintendo making games for the 3DS is the equivalent of someone purchasing Jordans for someone dying of cancer in a hospital bed. It's probably more expensive than it needs to be2. As it stands, I'll stick to the DS version that still works just fine on my 3DS thanks. However, I think of the two regions the VB was released in, I think it actually sold better in America. Maybe if they had been released on Switch or at least when the 3DS was still alive. That was a complete overhaul, new graphics engine, recorded music everything. @Crono1973 Oh come on, I love M&L, but I'm not buying a 3DS remake of a DS game. I can literally just slot in my DS cartridge on the 3DS if I want to play it. Nintendo thought people were still into the 3DS, gamers disagreed and voted with their wallets. I was tempted but I can't justify buying a 3DS remake of a game I still own and can already play on my 3DS. They should certainly continue to sell existing 3DS games. Maybe it suffered from poor marketing? Fair warning, the rest of this comment is LONG: I don't think it is fair to call the graphics of the 3ds remake "bad" just because it's not the original. His favourite Nintendo character used to be a guitar-playing dog, but nowadays he prefers to hang out with Judd the cat. Here's my bigbottomed assumption machine revving up for y'all, so feel free to challenge me on this. It's a very cartoony and goofy looking experience. @TheAwesomeBowser I never put expensive electronics in my pockets (except for my phone). I loved it. If not, I already have the original DS cartridge. But it seems as though even the latter won't last now, I have doubts about Kirby's Extra Epic Yarn selling too. That shouldn't be a deterrent to people who have genuine interest in this game. Recent 3DS title Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story + Bowser Jr.'s Journey has had a pretty rough launch period, with early sales showing that it is currently sitting amongst the worst-selling Mario titles ever released. ID Build Date Tested By Hardware Citra Version Rating 3395b013-9db5-46f7-82b5-cf231fc2f1f1 10/14/2020 puressea on 10/15/2020 AMD Ryzen 7 2700X Eight-Core Processor Bad 7aea66c6-597c-43de-8fea-841eb57176f3 1) I've mostly moved on from the 3DS, as I'm sure is the case with many others, and 2) there's so much out on Switch that I literally don't have the money to buy it. [source, via]. I’ve always wanted to play this. The short video gives a quick summary of the game’s plot, which involves Bowser inhaling Mario and Luigi while a mysterious illness infects the Mushroom Kingdom. Apparently some music was changed, like the title screen and credits4. Best Of 2020: How Do Switch eShop Discounts Impact Game Sales? You probably don't need us to tell you that Mario games usually perform incredibly strongly in the Japanese charts, but a life-to-date sales estimate of just over 20,000 units is worryingly low for our favourite plumber. You want to tell me that Switch boxing sold more than this game in Japan? Hosted by 44 Bytes. If people aren't happy with the small changes made on the 3ds, why would you be any more satisfied with a flat out renovation? Imagine the SEGA Classics or Excite Bike etc without it. It will be underrated forever and I SERIOUSLY hope that haters don't kill the series by not buying these games. Can't say I understand the hate. Didn’t realise it came out until like a week later. The third game in the Mario & Luigi RPG series, released in 2009 for the … Tropes appearing in the original game: Absurdly High Level Cap: Level 99, in a game that can easily be beaten before level 40. I now have all the games in the series. I always had an issue when people compare any game that bears the "Mario" game on it with another one. It is not in 3D. It restores 60 HP for Bowser when used. I think this franchise is done no matter which system you put it on. I was pretty confused about why they made these for 3DS and not for Switch... hopefully this isn't the end of the M&L games... @Kriven You're confused why the remake for a dual screen game was made on a system with dual screens? They need to fix that if they made a remake (hopefully) in the Switch. There's an unused item in the game named "DUMMY". Also the Switch isn't a lot bigger than the 3DS. This should have been on the Switch. The New 3DS was such a wasted opportunity. There's rules here. Mario and Luigi is one of my favourite RPG series, and I didn't even buy this game, not cause I don't want it, but because I already have pretty much exactly the same game already. The Wii is about 2 times as powerful as the 3DS. If on 3DS, I'd still probably get it because I still love the 3DS lol. Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story dev on how it approached the remake, Bowser Jr.’s Journey mode, updating music, more Posted on February 24, 2019 by Brian ( @NE_Brian ) in 3DS , News In last month’s issue of Nintendo Dream , the magazine spoke with the developer of Mario & Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story + Bowser Jr.’s Journey. Created 03/31/2018 09:10 PM Edited 04/04/2018 10:40 AM In interviews they say they didn't expect it to be so quick, they didn't know so many people would adopt the Switch so early, but I can understand why people would prefer to save the money for a future just twice the price console and then saving the money quicker than expected. Here's a brief description: A new side story follows Bowser Jr. as he gathers an army, creates formations, supports his allies with an arsenal of moves and generally causes chaos (in the best way possible). At least where I live, Nintendo never refreshes 3DS stock. They get to rebuild an entire game from the blueprints, and add that little bit to make it their own. Inside story was a great game. No surprise here. It's on the 3DS, the last game I played on it was New Leaf, and I haven't played that in forever5. The 3DS is the ONLY system in the games market capable of effortless stereoscopic 3D gaming. In its home region of Japan, Mario & Luigi: BIS + BJJ (how do you shorten the name of this thing?!) Wow. It was reported a few months ago that Alphadream is making a game for the Switch, it might not be M&L, but this gives me hope we'll get a new one for the Switch. they will need to adapt to a new platform environment that is closer to indie PC gaming than handheld gaming.Looking at Inti Creates, they made this sort of transition quite well, they are more varied than "RPGs with sprites" with what they produce mind you. Bowser's Inside Story is my favourite Mario & Luigi game by a fairly wide margin, but I haven't picked it up for a couple reasons. However, some additions and alterations to the gameplay have also been made. they are just lucky that Super Luigi sold well. I do not think backward compatibility is the issue given how many are willing to buy the ezio collection on xbox one even though bc for those titles had been added. For mainstream audiences, a MARIO game is a platformer one. I played it on DS, I had no desire to play it again on 3DS, especially when there is no 3D? They activate it by hammering it, which rouses Bowser. I would still like to replay it, as I only beat it once. 3DS barely takes damage from a fall. despite owning the original ds game I will buy this one again for collection sake - when it's become super cheap that is. He’d much rather just have a night in with Mario Kart and a pizza, and we can’t say we blame him. @oninowon Finally, someone who understands me! I dare you. I don’t expect much in the way of first-party support from Nintendo on 3DS after Extra Epic Yarn. No 3D no buy. Nintendo geeks clearly aren't picking up the slack for people like me. Paper Jam was indeed the only bad entry in the series, but to me, Dream Team was where the series started to show an increasing lack of magic that the series has shown before this game. Exactly. Seems like Nintendo is just trying to get some releases out in an attempt to keep the 3DS alive. I still have the DS version, so no thanks! Switch is only about as powerful as a PS3, and even that's stretching the truth. Alright alright, let me back up that statement. Why are they releasing the "remaster" of a game that was still big when the console came out on the same console? You don't think that has anything to do with it? Also, Switch is the size of an A3 document. I'm surprised to see a Virtual Boy game charting at all, and it apparently sold more than some 3DS games. But really, I feel like Nintendo does this to themselves. Luigi's mansion underperformed and now Bowser's Inside Story has flopped. Enjoy! I really hope this doesn't affect the chances of Mario and Luigi Partners in Time from being remade on the Switch, nor a new entry in the M&L series all together being made. Should have released it for Switch with HD graphics. The screenshot captured below shows the worst-selling, Nintendo-published Mario games to date in Japan and, as you can see, Mario & Luigi: BIS + BJJ is currently sitting amongst download-only titles and even a Virtual Boy game. In fact, I think the update looks worse than the original. So many SNES VC games and ports left on the table. I doubt Nintendo will worry that much. Even worse, the game's developer, AlphaDream, filed for bankruptcy shortly after release. I like that Nintendo are putting a lot of care into their ports and the addition of Bowser Jr.'s journey makes the package even more appealing. The percentage of beans and ?-Blocks found can also be viewed in the menu screen along with a summary of the current story. While some people do still buy 3ds games I'm sure very few are eagerly awaiting the chance to pay full price for one. Why comparing this RPG (which is a somewhat niche genre) to the most accepted and recognized platform games? ...And apparently Nintendo is going to keep supporting the system.sighs, @ClassSonicSatAm Mario's Tennis was not bundled with the VB in Japan I think. The fact that a Mario title is selling such awful numbers is a definite case of handwriting on the wall for 3DS. That is a huge advantage for me despite the fact that I own the original Wii steelbook version. Its not a store that has these problems alot either. I would continue buying new 3DS games (physical cartridge. Het is een remake van Mario& Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, waarmee het de tweede remake was in de Mario& Luigi-serie. 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